I look forward to that possibility, DB. I’ll bring my rattan!“(and if we ever meet, perhaps we will share a bottle)”
Frankle and Sogyal
As for Frankl; yes I have read his book (several times) “Man’s search for meaning” but I have not read the other you mentioned, “Man’s search for ultimate meaning”
Of course I was impressed with the man and his powerful objectivity/perspectives.
As I remember it he used an interesting turn of phrase to describe his deep understanding about what he calls the “Final freedom”; It goes something like this:
“…between stimulus and response there is a “gap” and a man can “choose” (while they are in the gap), what their “response” to that stimulus will be. He called the opportunity for choice that occurs in that moment between stimulus and response the “final freedom”.
(I thought the phrase “final freedom” was perhaps in some way putting it up Hitler and his “final solution”.?)
The “gap” is a wonderful image……..that can be extruded……………………..so the gap becomes wider/longer.
In fact Sogyal Rinpoche in his book “The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying” also uses the image of the “gap” when he discusses the process of meditation and thought control, or thought stopping. Sogyal says something like, “…thoughts are a stream of independent entities and between each thought is a “gap”. It is the aim of meditation practice to slow down the thoughts, watch them pass, recognize the “gap” between each thought and then drop between a gap! (into the mystic, no doubt!)
..into “no thought”
And then..?
(And then, bingo into the bardos!)
He tells us that this dropping into the gap is a mini death and if we practice these mini-deaths we will become familiar with the dying process and benefit by being able to make better choices while going through that process of dying at life’s end/transience.
Again the concept of the “final freedom” to “choose”. It is all about "choice" according to both authors.
Frankl argues that one cannot always chose their environment but they can choose their reaction to that environmental stimulus/li !!! Great insight.
Frankl knows his stuff. No doubt about it!
Regards, Matj