i want to sell my tickets, but i'm not sure how it's done, technincally.
if my tickets are still at the offices of ticketmaster (i was supposed to pick them up at the night of the concert, after showing my credit card) - and i want to sell them to someone from the internet, or even someone i know - how is it done?
do i have to get them sent to me first? or is there a faster way?
and how does it work? do i first get paid, and then send the ticket?
I would contact ticketmaster and tell them you would like them sent to you instead. If they press you for a reason, make something up like your going to not be able to arrive until just before the show, or better still, you bought the tickets as a gift and won't be going yourself. I would not tell them you want to resell them as they might not like that.
There's nothing that Ticketmaster would like more than for someone to sell their tickets! They have their own set-up called "Ticket Exchange" where you can sell your tickets at whatever price you want (and of course they get a large slice). Basically, they are facilitating touting, and the more that people use Ticketmaster, the more they are encouraging this. Once it becomes fully accepted, I guess other agencies will follow suit, and it will become virtually impossible to get tickets for big events at straight prices. Therefore, I for one am resolved to use other ticket agencies whenever possible, now.
There's nothing that Ticketmaster would like more than for someone to sell their tickets! They have their own set-up called "Ticket Exchange" where you can sell your tickets at whatever price you want (and of course they get a large slice). Basically, they are facilitating touting, and the more that people use Ticketmaster, the more they are encouraging this. Once it becomes fully accepted, I guess other agencies will follow suit, and it will become virtually impossible to get tickets for big events at straight prices. Therefore, I for one am resolved to use other ticket agencies whenever possible, now.
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That's true and she/he could do that.... but I am not sure that TM would be thrilled to change the delivery method for you so you can get the tickets delivered to you and sell it on your own..... That's my take anyways.
A few years back I ordered tickets that did not get delivered to me and they insisted that I had to pick them up at the box office and despite asking several times they would not send me an email or fax confirming the tickets would be at the box office. I find TM to be a little inflexible at times.
Concert promoter, Vince Power, a former promoter of festivals such as Leeds, Reading and Glastonbury, and the current promoter of Benicassim in Spain and Neil Young's Hop Farm concert in Kent, makes some interesting comments about touts in music week:
"I don’t have a problem with people buying a ticket and selling it on. I never have believed in registration. I resisted it when I was involved with Glastonbury. With Glastonbury you have this whole process where you have to register for tickets and then see whether you have been lucky enough to get one. It is nonsense; it kills the spirit of the festival. I think it is first come first served. If you are clever enough to sell your ticket for double the price well good luck to you. As long as they are genuine tickets I have no problem with people re-selling their tickets. Secondary ticketing only seems to be sensitive when you see a tout. If the ticket is wrapped around a sausage roll and delivered with a glass of champagne then nobody cares."
So, there you have it, from one of Europe's top concert promoters, "If you are clever enough to sell your ticket for double the price well good luck to you. As long as they are genuine tickets I have no problem with people re-selling their tickets."
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dharma - I think you may have a point here (or perhaps I should say Mr Power does!). I'm an ordinary guy (hardly ever go to concerts of any kind, by the way, and I rather get the impression from a lot of the postings on here that many are in a similar position). I just really like the words and music of Mr C and have wanted particularly to see him perform for a good many years. Although touts and opportunists - anyone can buy and sell on Ebay, these days - will always exist, I wonder if the furore surrounding their impact on this tour is entirely justified by reality. A couple of people who claim to know more than I do, and probably do, say that a large part of the ticket shortage is simply a reflection of the market demand. I suspect they're right.
I would have been happy to pay top dollar for front row seats anywhere I could see Mr C. In the event, by hanging on the phone while my partner used the computer, I've managed to secure some OK - not great, just OK - tickets for Manchester and Edinburgh. I also got a few Edinburgh spares, which I have offered on this board to fans for the price I paid - others selling on Ebay (and they are not great in number, by the way) claim in some cases to be simply disposing of their spares - may well be true in some cases! They may make a profit of sorts.
In the event, I'm very happy with the outcome - for me, the main thing is to be there for what is almost certainly going to be Leonard's Last Chance Saloon. And if I was ticketless right now, I think I'd be considering other avenues. At the end of the day, everything has its price and if someone's got something I want, at a price I can afford, perhaps the route they came by it is not worthy of too much thought/anguish. The same argument could probably be applied to a lot of other consumer goods on sale today.
All you have to do is write a letter of authorisation allowing someone to pick your tickets up on your behalf. Call ticketmaster and ask them what you need to include.
I got an e-mail on Wednesday from The Manchester International Festival saying that they had released more tickets for each night at Manchester. I am aware of some unallocated tickets still perhaps being around but it may well be worth logging onto or phoning TicketM from time to time just to check.
dharma wrote:
So, there you have it, from one of Europe's top concert promoters, "If you are clever enough to sell your ticket for double the price well good luck to you. As long as they are genuine tickets I have no problem with people re-selling their tickets."
What a blatant disregard for performer and his fans !! apparently all the "top concert promoter" is concerned with is his own pocket.
People who are supposedly "clever enough to sell the ticket for double the price" exploit both the preformer and his fans, additional fees paid by the fans should end up with the performer and people involved with his tour, not with scalpers who don't provide any services to anybody, they just profit from somebody's else work.
/Warsaw March 22 1985 / Halifax May 16 /Charlottetown May 18 / Dublin June 15 / Vienna Sept 24 2008/ Oakland April 13, 14, 15, San Jose Nov 13 2009/ Las Vegas Dec 11 2010/ Oakland March 2 2013/
I've always been under the impression that scalping is not only wrong but illegal. But, as it goes on right under our noses on places like ebay, I can only assume it isn't actually illegal.
And lately, I've started viewing it another way. First let me state I'm not a scalper, nor have I ever resold a ticket. Let's recognize that the concert ticket is simply another commodity that can be traded based on supply and demand. And that the original purchaser is the rightful legal owner. Now, name another such commodity in society that one can't legally purchase and own and then not have the right to legally resell it at whatever price they desire. If we can do that with the necessities of life, like a bottle of water, food or medicine (which I don't agree with) then it can certainly be done with a lowly concert ticket which serves no purpose other than to entertain for 2 hours. Also, people sell old coins and stamps for tens or hundreds of dollars. Is that wrong?
Some wrote, regarding scalpers - "they just profit from someone else's work". But, again, this happens with every other commodity in the free market economy. For example, look at how those who simply play the stock market profit from the engineers and scientists developing the new technologies or medicines in which the market players trade. The market player adds zero value to the product but still profits from its development and sale. For the record I disagree with the stock market also.
As far as the performer not getting the profit - well the performer got what he or she asked for in the original sale. If they wanted thrice as much they should have asked for it.
As for me - I now find myself sitting on pairs of tickets for 6 shows. Many in the first 2-5 rows. I paid face value for total of $1670. According to ebay and other sites these tickets are now "worth" about $6000. That profit would pay off my car loan! Tempting? Nope. For these shows - "I've been waiting, waiting night and day - I've waited half my life away".
Well written stuff, Steve - a few sentiments expressed there that I also made in an earlier posting. I agree that tickets are a tradeable, much like everything else, and there's absolutely no prospect of stopping other people dealing in them. As fans of a particular artist we may feel piqued at what happens on Ebay, but really it's only another fact of life.
Like you, I've got tickets for LC and wouldn't exchange my seats for anything - I too have been waiting too long and too eagerly. I did get a couple of spares for Edinburgh and, again like you, am not a tout or scalper. I've passed a couple on at face value to a real fan on this board and was delighted to do so. The couple remaining in my hands will, I hope, go the same way.
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Let's recognize that the concert ticket is simply another commodity that can be traded based on supply and demand.
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I now find myself sitting on pairs of tickets for 6 shows. Many in the first 2-5 rows. I paid face value for total of $1670. According to ebay and other sites these tickets are now "worth" about $6000. That profit would pay off my car loan!
Steve, if you ever want help in paying your car loan by unloading some of the tickets let me know .
As for supply/demand thing, of course this is how commodities and services are exchanged in the modern world. This is the job of the tour management however to put the right price on tickets, so that they maximize their profit in a decent way, and they missed this goal big time.
I paid $$$ for tickets on Ebay, this money should end up with people providing services I wanted, it went to scalpers instead.
/Warsaw March 22 1985 / Halifax May 16 /Charlottetown May 18 / Dublin June 15 / Vienna Sept 24 2008/ Oakland April 13, 14, 15, San Jose Nov 13 2009/ Las Vegas Dec 11 2010/ Oakland March 2 2013/
Hi all!!!
Have read all comments regarding tickets and just need to say that I AM THE FAN jeremy has kindly let have tickets at face value which has restored my faith!!!
I have also been fortunate enough to get one ticket for m/c via Jondi who has also proved to be a true gent. These two people have not stooped to moneytary gain and have instead opted for [hopefully] the feel good factor of making someone very very happy! As Stan has said in other thread these people deserve a medal
THANKS GUYS!!!!
ms.blue/Sheila
Hi ms blue
I would like to say what you have just said, only a bit more, i to got a ticket of Jondi for face value, and he was kind enough to deliver the ticket by hand from Manchester to Sunderland, a round trip of about 200 miles what a real genuine GENT. If you get the chance to meet him, you will realy enjoy his company.
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