prendio2 wrote: It would seem to me to be the smallest capacity he will play to on the tour. Am I right in that assumption? The capacity is 1,865.
All the Atlantic Canada venues were smaller, with auditorium Dufour in Saguenay seating only 970 people, sorry .
Charlottetown (Prince Edward Island) tickets went for appr. $75
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mirka wrote:All the Atlantic Canada venues were smaller, with auditorium Dufour in Saguenay seating only 970 people, sorry
Wow! That would have been great... Smallest crowd I've been in yet was probably Bruges - I'm very bad at guessing capacity at gigs but there were definitely a good few thousand in that park.
So Canada wins in that respect but maybe Konzerthaus will be the smallest capacity in Europe?? I need something here
I cannot believe -- the best seats for Leonard Cohen concert in Vienna Konzerthaus are almost twice as expensive as comparable tickets for traditional New Years concert with Strauss Festival Orchester Wien !
(LC goes for e196, New Years concert for e102).
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I am already impressed by the place and its staff having received emails apologising for the problems with the web site and for having actually charged my card when the site said it could not be charged!
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mirka wrote:I cannot believe -- the best seats for Leonard Cohen concert in Vienna Konzerthaus are almost twice as expensive as comparable tickets for traditional New Years concert with Strauss Festival Orchester Wien!
The venue has to recoup its costs in hiring the artist. If Cohen tickets are twice as expensive then that will by and large be because Cohen's appearance fee is twice as much. And we all know why Cohen needs the money.
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Paul Zagreb wrote:I am already impressed by the place and its staff having received emails apologising for the problems with the web site and for having actually charged my card when the site said it could not be charged!
I echo your sentiments. When I went down there on Monday morning I spoke to a very nice lady who informed me that tickets were not going on sale until midday. She took my telephone number and promised to phone me back so that she could offer me the best seats in the house. And she was as good as her word.
Try getting that level of service from Ticketbastard.
Not sure what point you are making there. As I wrote above, the ticket price is first of all a function of the artist's fee. And don't forget the Konzerthaus is one of the smallest venues on the tour so they need to charge more than larger venues would in order to recoup that fee.
Plus, Vienna is an affluent city and as such the venue are charging what the market will bear. Personally I have no complaints about these prices.
Plus, Vienna is an affluent city and as such the venue are charging what the market will bear. Personally I have no complaints about these prices.
Unless I got my conversion wrong, best seats in Prague (NOT as affluent as Vienna!) are about 217 Euros ... it does seem to be a price that enough people are prepared to pay which is probably a definition of a market, unfortunately ...
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All in all, I am beginning to feel a bit better about the €161 per ticket I paid for the Paris shows!
I did have some Vienna tickets in my basket at one point.... but the system fell over (before I could enter credit card details, Paul) and saved me from myself and my ever increasing Leonard Cohen debt.
Mabeanie1 wrote:
I did have some Vienna tickets in my basket at one point.... but the system fell over (before I could enter credit card details, Paul) and saved me from myself and my ever increasing Leonard Cohen debt.
Wendy
I do fear, Wendy, that many of us are going to need both debt counselling and some kind of withdrawal therapy after this is over!!
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I think that Vienna show is extremely expensive for standards in this part of Europe (maybe not compared to UK or Canadian tickets). The most expensive show in, let's say, Warszawa (Sala Kongresowa - like Bob Dylan, Katie Melua, who played when I was there in June) is far under 100 Euros, like 200 zlotys (and still to expensive for Poles, so why Torwar is an option), also the most expensive shows in Croatian national hall Lisinski, like Nick Cave or Mark Knopfler or Madredeus, were up to 80 Euros... Prague should also be cheaper, and Sofia, if they're having local ticket prices. I guess Austria is a country with so high standard then that neighbor countries can't afford Leonard Cohen show in Konzerthaus. Unfortunately. But Slovenian show - if it happens - should be no more than 60 Euros, Hala Tivoli can't be above that price (according to Nick Cave and Patti Smith etc. shows which were in Ljubljana; Dylan was 70 Euros in June).
I guess my cheaper option will be Berlin (even with traveling) or Warzawa then, or maybe Milano. I will take care next time that it's closed hall and early show, as I do expect Lucca (my first show, in 4 days) to be shortened to a half of setlist.
When I phoned oeticket on Monday at 3pm I was first taken aback by the price, then by the fact that the best seats had been already sold. So I got "only" 6th row, which was a pity. Frankfurt I have 2nd row, which is incl. flight from Vienna and 1 night +++hotel cheaper than the concert in my hometown. It's a mad mad mad world.
Not really, the price is entirely logical - see my comments above. I don't know the venue in Frankfurt, but I bet it's bigger than the Konzerthaus. The venue has to recoup the artist fee through ticket sales, hence the price has to be higher in Vienna because the venue is smaller. Plus, they are charging what the market will bear. And the €200 seats are already sold out, so the market is working efficiently.