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I remember I'd first seen this on 20th December 2012.
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Here's Joey's blog earlier this year on 1st February 2013.
http://www.leonardcohen.com/us/tour/roadblog?page=119

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Joey's "Just a test" image 18th February 2013.
http://www.leonardcohen.com/us/tour/roadblog?page=118

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Athnuachan wrote:It's really silly season, isn't it? ( no LC concerts... :cry: )
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Tell me again
When the rest of the culture
Has passed thru’ the Eye of the Camp
Tell me again…
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Bravo, IMM! You got it all right)
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...interesting that on the third image down in B4Real's post the unified hearts seem to be shown "bleeding", which could bring a Christian symbolism into play in the form of the "sacred heart".

"and it's once for the devil and once for Christ
but the Boss don't like these dizzy heights
we're busted in the blinding lights,
busted in the blinding lights
of CLOSING TIME"

Just goes to show that if you give someone a squiggle on a white board they'll try to find a meaning in it (divine if possible).
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The Eye in the Triangle makes a rare appearance in a Christian context in renaissance painter Pontormo's "Supper at Emmaus" painting. However, this masonic site claims it is a later addition;

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/art/emmaus.html
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I found a little more on the Pontormo painting, which confirms that the eye was added later, but explains why. On Google Books I found a book called Uffizi Gallery: Art, History, Collections by Gloria Fossi with this passage:
"The holy eye, symbol of the Trinity, was added to conceal the three-front face, sign of the Trinity, painted by Pontormo and later prohibited by the Catholic church."
Some other sites I found said that the three-front face was prohibited by the Council of Trent, as part of a general move to get rid of art in the church that was perceived as influenced by paganism (e.g. nudity-- even naked newborn Jesus in nativity paintings) or that was thought to be confusing to the faithful. If you click on the link, you'll see that the three-front face is at least very freaky looking. So basically one Trinitarian symbol was being replaced with another. And somehow I doubt this sheds any light on why an eye might have appeared on Leonard Cohen merch. He has steeped himself so thoroughly in symbology from so many sources, who can say at this point? But I don't think it's anything nefarious; by their fruits ye shall know them.
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I have a new favorite front-runner candidate for the meaning of the eye. Found this on Wikiquotes, from Leonard Cohen's 1985 concert in Warsaw:
I know there is an eye that watches all of us. There is a judgment that weighs everything we do. And before this great force, which is greater than any government I stand in awe and I kneel in respect and it is to this great judgment that I dedicate this next song, "Hallelujah".
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This is not about the logo, but the quote in the previous message reminded me of two very interesting documents from Warsaw 1985:
Transcription of Leonard's introductions: www.leonardcohenfiles.com/warsaw-85-2.html
Daniel Wyszogrodzki tells about the Warsaw 1985 concert: www.leonardcohenfiles.com/warsaw85.html
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I was at the Warsaw concert, Daniel Wyszogrodzki doesn't tell the whole story of the line "formed in a week's advance, controlled day and night by me and my friends from the car", possibly because he doesn't know it.

There was another line, also formed appr. in a week's advance by another group of friends. That group set up a paper list, and decided to meet every evening at the box office to read the list and add new members. I was number 3 or something on this list, we posted a note on the box office door with the info how to get on it, which apparently wasn't read by the members of the group camping in the car.

Members of both lists didn't know about each other until the day the tickets went on sale: to our amazement we discovered there are two parallel lists ! Ours was much smaller, and both lists merged peacefully, which was kind of miracle as emotions ran high that day. :D
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Thank you for posting those links, Jarkko - they are both wonderful documents, & Daniel Wyszogrodski's account is very beautiful & very moving!

And thank you, Helen, for pointing out that quote from the Warsaw concert.

Interestingly, one of my initial thoughts about the Eye, was that it is the "All-Seeing Eye", & Leonard's quote from long ago would seem to support that. Ultimately, as we are "seeing", it is a pretty powerful piece of visual poetry, as it can clearly mean many things, evoke many kinds of emotions, & it is apparently speaking to some deep places in people's hearts. It's like a startling, unexpected word, or turn of phrase, in the poem of the Unified Heart.
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As you've noted, holydove, many layers, doors, windows, and hallways 8) ~ that's our Leonard :D

LOVE your addition here, mirka, regarding Leonard's long-ago concert in Poland, with the two lines and lists peacefully merging.
[Perhaps, the leaders of those lines could come over for a bit and give our deeply divided government a hand ;-) ]
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John Etherington wrote:The Eye in the Triangle makes a rare appearance in a Christian context in renaissance painter Pontormo's "Supper at Emmaus" painting. However, this masonic site claims it is a later addition
You sound like you might be interested in the jewish connection through the Florentines, the Sistine chapel and stories of the "great castration" (fig leaf campaign as some call it).
Perhaps your library has a copy of something like:

...The Sistine Secrets: Michelangelo's Forbidden Messages in the Heart of the Vatican
...by Benjamin Blech (Author) , Roy Doliner (Author)

?
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lizzytysh wrote: LOVE your addition here, mirka, regarding Leonard's long-ago concert in Poland, with the two lines and lists peacefully merging.
[Perhaps, the leaders of those lines could come over for a bit and give our deeply divided government a hand ;-) ]
Lizzy, all this happened long time ago, in another time, when people still wanted to talk, listen and compromise. Seems like nowadays the world went crazy, everybody wants to talk and hardly anybody wants to listen, even less to compromise :(
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Yeah, I know, mirka. I remember Daniel's piece from the Cracow Event.
Just wishful thinking on my part... the world has, indeed, changed since then :shock:
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lizzytysh wrote:Yeah, I know, mirka. I remember Daniel's piece from the Cracow Event.
Just wishful thinking on my part... the world has, indeed, changed since then :shock:
It is perhaps why Lech Wałęsa gets backstage and Bono doesn't.
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