8.43am Friday Oct 22nd 04, Dublin.

margaret · Post by **margaret** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:13 am

Pete , you can order your copy online from http://www.play.com or cdwow and it will be waiting at home for you after your rainsoaked rambles!

Hanna · Post by **Hanna** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:37 pm

They include that litho with dedication in EMPiK - both stores (in Wroclaw)!

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:56 pm

Hi Margaret - I just checked out your link. There is a section for LC DVDs.

Leonard wasn't at the Prince's Trust Concert in 1988 was he? Strange bedfellows must be a typo.

Prince's Trust Concert 1988 (Eric Clapton ; Phil Collins ; Mark Knopfler ; Leonard Cohen ; Bee Gees ; Peter Gabriel ; Joe Cocker ; Wet Wet Wet ; Midge Ure ; Colin Vearncombe ; Rick Astley ; Howard Jones ; T'Pau ; Brian May)

margaret · Post by **margaret** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:14 pm

Paula,

Oh yes he was

He sang Tower of Song (twice according to the soundcheck cd I have!) A work colleague let me copy her video of the show.

I read somewhere once that Prince Charles is a Cohen fan

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:36 pm

Prince Charles also loves Kendal Mint Cake.

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:08 pm

The origins of Kendal Mint Cake are old and obscure.
There is a school of thought that says that an elderly monk from Dalesdown-On-Plough, was asked by his Abbot to prepare a meal that the Abbot could carry easily on his travels around the Monastic Lands, which their Monastery owned. Many wealthy people used to bequeath land to the Church as a way of getting into Heaven quicker. They would leave money for a Mass to ba said each year and some land for the monks to grow food and keep sheep.
England's wealth in the Middle Ages came from the sale of wool to Belgium and Holland.
Anyway, the elderly monk experimented with grain and honey (no sugar in those days!) and found that if he made something like what we call a 'flap-jack' he could give the Abbot a high energy bar of sweet tasting food.
The word 'mint' is believed to be a derivation of 'monk.' Local dialects were strongly used in a period in England's history when most people would never even leave the valley they were born and brought up in. Inflections in the use of words and the local Norse, Saxon, Celt and French influences meant that the language could be very different from one village to another.
As as been said already, the item is not a 'cake,' but the Abbot is thought to have referred to it as 'cack, which is olde English, or Middle English for waste.
The Anglo Saxon Chronicles do not mention the Kendal Mint Cake, but they do refer to a monk from Daleslong-On-Plough, which is believed to be a village that was a short distance up river from Dalesdown-On-Plough. The monk is called Canutem, which is a Celtic version of the famous Canute, who was the King who tried to stop the tide from flowing. The monk Canutem, lived about 250 years before King Canute.
Once again, the local dialects and differences in language have altered the word Canutem to Cinnith, which became Kenneth, and hence, Ken.
So we have Kenneth, the elderly monk, creating a grain and honey food supplement, in Dalesdown-On-Plough, or Daleslong, as recorded as a 'mint' or 'monk,' who gave it to his Abbot who refered to it as 'waste,' which is believed to be 'waist' in our usage of the word. Giving the Abbot food for his stomach, ie: waist.

Leaving us with Ken Dale Mint Cake.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:37 am

Margaret
Thanks for the link. In this instance I will find Heather in a shop...last time I received cds mail order the cases were broken. I don't want Heather having a cracked face, I will need to get her home safe and well

Byron.
Is this a tall story or not? I think you have been to the inn at Wasdale Head where they have tall story competitions...but then again....

Now to the hills.......

Pete

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:50 am

Margaret - you learn something every day. I didn't know that. Please tell me he wasn't singing after Rick Ashley. Where was the concert?

margaret · Post by **margaret** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:57 am

not sure but it might have been the Royal Albert Hall. I'll have to try and watch the tape again soon. He is near the beginning of the concert. I wasn't there

I never got to see him in concert at all, hence my quest for video material.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:04 am

My question exactly, Pete ~ is this a ruse, Byron? Done so seriously tongue-in-cheek, if so.

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:20 am

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:12 am

8.30 a.m. Queen st. Cardiff, Dear Heather fell into my arms.

Everything you wanted to know about Kendal mint cakes, but were too bored to ask.

http://www.kendal.mintcake.co.uk

Rob.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:44 pm

Am I the only Cohen fan who has not heard it??
Have just got back from my travels.
I walked up Great Gable mountain ( won't say how far I got

)
but I couldn't find a record shop there.
I even went shopping in Hawkshead but only bought some socks.

I ventured to the Yorkshire Dales but could only find Wensleydale cheese.

This morning I climbed 411 steps to the top of Mallam Cove but no record shop there.

maybe tomorrow.................my local record shop will have a copy waiting.......maybe

Pete

Lizzy.. I didnt buy any Kendal Mint Cake.... there was plenty of it but it's sickly stuff anyway

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:01 pm

Rob ~ Love the way you expressed yourself on both ~ Dear Heather

and Kendal mint cakes

! Pete ~ please clear your opinions on the mint cakes, first, through Rob's suggested site

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