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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:00 am
by Kush
You are welcome Lizzytysh. I can see the points that you and TC have made in the last 2 posts. The system is not necessarily fair but my point is there is a bigger picture than just an artist not being consulted on a CD release. The "molding" is true ...i have enough friends in the business world to know that, but that is the system. "It does some good, it does some harm". :D

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:45 am
by lizzytysh
:D ~ Yeah, I'm not sure what term[s] came into my mind when I saw your sharing of Mr. Idei's relevant details, but they were along the lines of "caring, innovative, thinking-outside-the-box." It's true that there are individuals, real people, at the top. One of the problems with these systems, however, is that there are so many layers of policies-and-procedures [and stock options :wink: ~ with your business friends, I know you already know all about that], that the one[s] at the top become quite effectively insulated from the real people, with their stories, that all the policies and procedures affect in the realest of ways. The CEOs cease to be "individuals" in the way we generally perceive that term. It's a dilemma.

Shania Twain did quite well on her own, after rattlesnake-coiling against all the directives given to her, if she wanted to "make it." She "made it" anyway, and has an inspiring story of determination and resilience against being controlled [if one can trust the biographical documentary on her]. There have been others, but what a sad outcome for those like TC mentioned, who get robbed and "shelved." It's so easy to get chewed up and spit out.

Were it not for Columbia, I'm guessing I may never have heard Leonard :cry: .....when it comes to upsides, that's a definite one :D .

~ Lizzytysh

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:11 pm
by Kush
Personally I'm glad that LC was not consulted. Coz' that would have ensured nothing from Death of a Ladies Man would have made it. As it happens, Iodine is in this collection. It can be possible that others can judge an artist's work from a perspective that the artist himself does not see. As Big Al put it, this is the critics choice (Mojo magazine i guess), made independently of the artist.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:09 pm
by lizzytysh
You're right on that, Kush, and that would/could [in some cases] be another upside :D ~ in this case, apparently for you. I have yet to hear Iodine, so I can't speak to it. It's just the principle of the agreement :( .