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Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:25 pm
by Darling
John Etherington wrote: I would like to hear a paired-down version of "DOALM", and may have been the first person to suggest this (I put the idea to Leonard in a letter, at least eight years ago).
Come on, somebody probably suggested it to him the very day that album came out!

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:35 pm
by emmanaomi
Anything Phil Spectre, and Memories... I want to see your naked body?!

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:36 pm
by emmanaomi
Oh, and I love Jazz Police, Monsieur Camembert, an Australian band, do a great cover of it.

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:06 am
by John Etherington
Hi gaglou,

I'm sure you're right that people were suggesting to Leonard that he brought out a stripped-down version of DOALM from day one. Though in my post above, I was thinking back to the time when quality re-mastering of CDs was beginning (somewhere around 2000?).

All the best, John E

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:38 am
by Darling
Hi John,
Although I would also really like a remix of the album, I don't hate it either. I listen to it in my car and I pump up the volume. But sometimes I feel like Phil Spector is a criminal in more ways than one...

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:16 am
by John Etherington
Indeed gaglou... I notice that, being tactful, you didn't say that Spector manages to get away with murder!

Cheers, John E

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:30 am
by Darling
Should we call the Jazz Police and have him locked inside Walls of Sound?

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:24 pm
by jill
I like Bird on a Wire but I just want to add to this thread an interview with LC where he looks back on this song and comments on the line::

"I have saved all my ribbons for thee' or "I will make it all up to thee." wondering where did that came from?

Jill

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:39 pm
by Davido
I noticed that Mickey_one mentioned this line in the first post, and you mention it, too, Jill. In concert Leonard always sings instead 'It was the shape of our love that twisted me' !
Dave

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:24 am
by glida
........almost anything on "Death of Ladies Man" (except for "Memories," which is so delightfully outrageous). For me, the album, for a variety of reasons, doesn't work, but I really think it's pretty anomalous relative to the rest of his work.

Outside of that album, I really can't think of anything off-putting about his output.

......and I recommend giving "Bird....." another try. For me, the entry point into the lyric is identification with the protagonist, daring to experience the world from his world view. Perhaps, that's the biggest challenge in experiencing Leonard.........rule of thumb (?): the more uncomfortable the work makes you, the more it deserves your attention.

Fred

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:54 pm
by upsofloating
I love "Jazz Police". I love Cohen, but I find each album has a few clunkers except "I'm Your Man". The thing with Cohen is that his music is based solely upon the poetry, so if the lyrics don't click, the music certainly won't save the song.

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:36 am
by imaginary friend
Hi upsofloating,

is your last name manybellsdown? Or Cummings?

:) – my favourite poem of all.

IF

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:07 pm
by Kevin
The only song I regularly skip is Diamonds in the Mine, so that's my pick. Jazz Police rawks! \m/ \m/ EDIT: Well... I hardly ever play DOALM or Dear Heather.

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:34 pm
by stan
Iodine,Green sleeves, YUCKKKKKK

Re: Worst ever LC tracks

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:54 pm
by Murf
I really like Death Of A Ladies Man, the title track is one of my favourite Cohen numbers and Memories is outrageously good.

Jazz Police is indeed a bit rubbish, I struggle a bit with Dear Heather if I'm honest.