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YdF,

You captured my heart when you made me laugh out loud at a funeral. A 'figurative funeral', of course.

Linda.

Cyberspace carries no guarantees of identity, purpose, or motive ~ no matter how well you think you know that you know that you know. I go with my instincts, which generally have proven to be good.

Of course, with regard to Heathcliffe, it probably helps that I have two, distinct, real-life 'models' who were idealistic, vulnerable, and open in the area of love. One of them was gay, and the other was straight. They both felt truly and spoke their hearts. For you, it would all be imaginary. For me, I choose to see it as real, and I prefer to err on the side of kindness. I see him as a young man, sitting alone at his computer, feeling very lonely and sad. In today's world [with decreasing 'connectedness' between people], that is unfortunately not such an uncommon vision or likelihood.

As you revert to your recent [new] stance relating to 'smart cookie,' your original words related to a young man, telling him

Dear Heathcliff~

Quit whining and grow some whiskers.

It is my best advice.

Everything else, time will heal. No, scratch that. Time will suppress. Yeah, that's the ticket.

regards,
Laurie

and later stating,

"My response was quite serious.
If you want to feed baby food to a 23 year old guy, fine. I don't particularly think that it will do much more than illicit more of the same."

These words have absolutely nothing to do with thinking someone is on a wind-up. These words have everything to do with referring to someone who is real, but who you believe is spilling his heart and wallowing in "whining" self-pity; and your belief that he is being mollycoddled, and that mollycoddling will do no good ~ and that your, own best advice [already given, to quit whining and grow some whiskers] is the best, possibly only way to handle someone his age; and, to do otherwise, will only encourage him to continue in his wallowing in "whining" self-pity.

So, while you're being amused, I'm being amazed that you actually think people are going to believe your ruse, regarding what you originally meant with the two things you said. Someone just happened to come along and named you in connection with a theory, which revealed a door labeled "Out" and you jumped at it, so you could 'ascend,' with condescension toward those who had offered sincere comment. There was an earlier opportunity where you could have chimed in, had you really meant that in the beginning.

Now, you've taken it to the extent of my communicating with an imaginary friend. You certainly have a need of some sort ; I'm guessing to try to bolster and support your deception. The more you reference it, perhaps, the more believable it will become. There's a practiced theory on that, too......if you repeat a lie long enough, people will begin to see it as true [including, sometimes, yourself]. Politicians make ready, handy use of it, frequently, in their campaigns. Someone may be convinced, but I'm surely not.

~ Lizzy

Lizzy~

It's almost over.

Your pitbull grasp on me NOT thinking this was a windup from the start is annoying and wrong.

When you tried to get "heathcliffee" to attack me for my post to him while you were standing up for "vince" it was not the time to say, oh by the way this is in no way a legit person. I was at the time gobsmacked that you were vindictive enough to drag my olde post out and beg Heath to beat me with it. Afterall vince said something sweet to dar, so his 'sex' remark had a free pass. Afterall you are the queen of all this and you hand out the punishments and determine the fairness of it all. And like you said Vince IS sweet and kind and did not deserve to be called a bastard. All this coming from a freaking imaginary character, which you believe to be real no less.
Me bringing up the windup factor was a non-issue when you held me up as an uncaring cretin (to a fucking imaginary, tragic, Wuthering Heights character....)

Here *i toss a bone* there is something interesting over there...

Laurie

My, my, my ~ a bit defensive . Whatever could that mean ? A sleight of hand sometimes warrants and deserves a pit-bull grasp. Sleights of hand are every bit as annoying.

And just look at all the melodrama in that second paragraph . You and YdF should really collaborate on Grade B novelettes. You both have such a flair for it.

I don't do bones, so find a local canine who can appreciate it.

~ Lizzy

Ahem...
<Vincent stepping in to break up the premature fight>

Alright, less of this
behave like ladies
even if that is like asking
me to provide an alcohol free
blood sample

Lizz~

A bit defensive?
You will not let go of it...over and over you rattle on about how you know that I am making the wind-up up. I have kept my mouth shut about it post after ridiculous post (by you) till now.

Soon I will be gone...leaving you naught but supporters and enablers of your bad behavior.
It will be like nirvana for ya (again).

kisses,
p.s. even Margaret you friend and unbiased smart cookie saw the reality of the situation. Get a clue

Vince.

Sit down and shut up.

sincerely,
Laurie

<Laurie adjusts her top to show more cleavage>

Vince: "FOUL! Don't do that again.
Fighters must remain fully clothed
at all times.
This is your first and last warning."

Laurie, lurches at Lizzy
delivering a triple sucker punch
of a snarling expression.
"Soon I will be gone...
leaving you naught
but supporters and enablers
of your bad behavior."

<End of Round One...Bell Sounds>

Vince.

Sit down and shut up.

sincerely,
Laurie

Lizzy's Corner.

<Lizzy is being sponged down by her coach Vince. >

Vince: " You're doing great...just great, ask her to post proof."

Lizzy: "Proof of what?"

Vince: " Anything, as long as it's proof."

Lizzy: "Hmmmm ok."

Laurie ~

Yes, defensive.

As for your leaving/staying, why do you let me rent space in your head the way you do? I really, truly, don't get it. Evict me [from your head], rather than yourself [from this Forum]. This isn't about me [the Forum ~ LNN/QE/etc.], as you keep trying to make it be ~ and then point your finger at me, as being one who supposedly continually harangues about you .

I don't believe you regarding the 'wind up' premise. Sorry about that. I can't pretend to believe you, and when you continue to return to say something negative here, and once again introduce that false premise; yes, I will again say I do not believe you. It's not "bad behavior" ~ it's calling a spade, a spade.

As for your leaving, there are and have been many ways I enjoy your input, your 'voice,' so to speak. Your cleverness with Critic2 about the Bees and dripping honey, et al, was but one example. I almost commented, but it seemed rather odd at that juncture. I love your poetry. Always have. Always will. The way it is between you and me is just the way it is. However, I would still miss your comments. I could name others who would, too. As Critic 2 said, we just don't click. Now there's an understatement, eh?

You're a grown woman who feels compelled to scoff at and ridicule another grown woman regarding someone that you say you feel isn't 'real' ~ so what!?! Who asked you!?! Who are you trying to convince? When you get subsequent feedback from me, why are you surprized?

Why do you feel such a need to make a dramatic exit, pointing as you go, that it's "because of her ~ the one who 'started it'~!" ? You're questioning how this, grown woman is thinking?

~ Lizzy [no kisses]

Laurie' Corner.

Loud sobbing from Laurie

YdF: "Awww what's wrong?"

Laurie: "I don't have a coach, no one likes me."

YdF: "Oh forget about being liked. Your obnoxious."

Laurie: "But I want someone to care for me, even if I hate and destroy them for it. I've no one to sponge me down like that bitch <points at Lizzy>

YdF: " Awwwww <throws bucket of water over Laurie> consider yourself sponged down."

DING
Round Two....

G~d, look what I missed while I was being all serious !?!

Well, can't [well, won't] do a rewrite to make my response fit the criteria suggested, so hopefully it'll do.

I do have one question, though; one I've been having right along. Why does someone suddenly catapult to the highest levels of "smart cookie" and other, such references when they provide an opened, trap door for you?

Margaret's being my friend is totally irrelevant to what she thinks regarding what you meant. It doesn't mean she was right or wrong. It has nothing to do with her intelligence or our friendship. It won't be the first/last time we disagreed on something. It's an odd link-up that you're trying to make with that, in the first place .

ENOUGH!

<removes tie>

I'm going to bed.
Behave yourselves.

I need to call it a night, myself . . . . I think it's a good thing to laugh before sleep.

*looks at it*
"night"

~ Lizzy