Yoooo Hoooooo Critic2
Yoooo Hoooooo Critic2
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Last edited by Martine on Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
that was very kind of you.
I can't remember how our last burst of posting ended. Are you the same as Makeera or a different person? I do recall it was difficult to distinguish you two from the writing style.
Invective gives you a chance to be funny and original. You were never either and that was disappointing. Poetry gives you the same opportunity, if you wish, but in writing invective you needn't worry so much about rhythm or discipline.
Anyway, I got bored rather quickly. I had overrated your ability to entertain me. The responses became duller as they went on. I was also struck by the rather sad need to call on each other for help (if there really are two of you).
I know I looked up the collection of "poems" that one of you has on allpoetry. It was "new-age" style and despite that being an undemanding genre, it was only distinguished by how undistinguished it was even by the standards of that site.
My enthusiasm to help you improve your writing has rather waned, but I repeat that you should not be misled by compliments gathered at allpoetry which has at best "Hallmark" standards.
Obviously, this being your thread, you may treat it as an opportunity to try and be clever or witty in response. However, this has never worked for you before.
I can't remember how our last burst of posting ended. Are you the same as Makeera or a different person? I do recall it was difficult to distinguish you two from the writing style.
Invective gives you a chance to be funny and original. You were never either and that was disappointing. Poetry gives you the same opportunity, if you wish, but in writing invective you needn't worry so much about rhythm or discipline.
Anyway, I got bored rather quickly. I had overrated your ability to entertain me. The responses became duller as they went on. I was also struck by the rather sad need to call on each other for help (if there really are two of you).
I know I looked up the collection of "poems" that one of you has on allpoetry. It was "new-age" style and despite that being an undemanding genre, it was only distinguished by how undistinguished it was even by the standards of that site.
My enthusiasm to help you improve your writing has rather waned, but I repeat that you should not be misled by compliments gathered at allpoetry which has at best "Hallmark" standards.
Obviously, this being your thread, you may treat it as an opportunity to try and be clever or witty in response. However, this has never worked for you before.
Haha! Martine ~ 
He's an obedient little fellow, isn't he? You call and there he is!
Well, I certainly find YOU entertaining, this silly sod makes an adequate
'straight man' at least.
So, he can't tell our linguistic styles apart?
Oh what perspicacious credibilty as a literary 'critic'!
Uh oh, Critic2 wrote
Er, a little more detail than we really needed, don't you think?
Yay, Martine! Troll Trapper Extraordinaire!
~ Makera
He's an obedient little fellow, isn't he? You call and there he is!
Well, I certainly find YOU entertaining, this silly sod makes an adequate
'straight man' at least.
So, he can't tell our linguistic styles apart?
Oh what perspicacious credibilty as a literary 'critic'!
Uh oh, Critic2 wrote
Now he's telling us his personal problems...coming quickly
Er, a little more detail than we really needed, don't you think?
Yay, Martine! Troll Trapper Extraordinaire!
~ Makera
I just read the allpoetry page that one of you has (or both)- it is standard Hallmark New Age, not a hint of originality. No wonder you are frightened to post it to a group where they don't go "wow" for rhyming "heart" and "start" as you brilliantly did in your last poem.
You recall your last poem? The one that begins
There's
no stopping
no blocking.
No way of denying
this freefall of feeling
Oh dear.
I am comforted, however, that you introduce yourself on that site as a "seeker of Truth". You will therefore welcome my advice that writing poetry is not the mechanical exercise that you appear to believe. It is not a quest for an easy clichéd rhyme.
At least your further comment that you "do not call yourself a 'poet'" means you will have plenty of company.
Let me use another one of your pieces as an example of your apparent "thought process". As usual it is quite well acclaimed on allpoetry. I think it is hopeless and would be called that and worse on a proper critical site.
The first verse goes
Sound
the depths
that ring a bell
Fall into the
Blue
To seek and find
the piece you lost
that proved the
True
This is drivel that belongs at best on a particularly cheap box of chocolates. But what I object to most is the absurd use of the word "true" as you desperately seek a rhyme. I imagine your Archimedes moment as you abuse the language to match "blue" and "the true". Have you no shame? (have you no talent?)
You must just as well have said
Write
the clichés
that ring a bell
Fall into the
Hole
To copy and use
the piece you drop
that proved the
Troll
You, (or both of you) are the real trolls. There is nothing illegal about you running a glee-club for non-writers but your perpetuation of sad writing is seriously criminal.
You also seem to have a psycho-sexual problem. Your recurrent theme of sexual violence is disturbing and may need professional attention.
You recall your last poem? The one that begins
There's
no stopping
no blocking.
No way of denying
this freefall of feeling
Oh dear.
I am comforted, however, that you introduce yourself on that site as a "seeker of Truth". You will therefore welcome my advice that writing poetry is not the mechanical exercise that you appear to believe. It is not a quest for an easy clichéd rhyme.
At least your further comment that you "do not call yourself a 'poet'" means you will have plenty of company.
Let me use another one of your pieces as an example of your apparent "thought process". As usual it is quite well acclaimed on allpoetry. I think it is hopeless and would be called that and worse on a proper critical site.
The first verse goes
Sound
the depths
that ring a bell
Fall into the
Blue
To seek and find
the piece you lost
that proved the
True
This is drivel that belongs at best on a particularly cheap box of chocolates. But what I object to most is the absurd use of the word "true" as you desperately seek a rhyme. I imagine your Archimedes moment as you abuse the language to match "blue" and "the true". Have you no shame? (have you no talent?)
You must just as well have said
Write
the clichés
that ring a bell
Fall into the
Hole
To copy and use
the piece you drop
that proved the
Troll
You, (or both of you) are the real trolls. There is nothing illegal about you running a glee-club for non-writers but your perpetuation of sad writing is seriously criminal.
You also seem to have a psycho-sexual problem. Your recurrent theme of sexual violence is disturbing and may need professional attention.
Haha! Well, C2, you pursue me to Allpoetry to 'critique' my writing and then bombard me for hours, via instant messages, with your ignorance of esoteric concepts and a pathological aversion to rhymes of any kind!
And, you still don't see something wrong with that picture?
So, that must mean you would detest rhyming words like 'soon' & 'moon',
'control' & 'soul', or 'song & long', is that it?
It really is intellectually dishonest to take a few lines of something out of context in a purile attempt at poetic 'critique'.
To see the original forms of C2's obsession, the two snippets he has
fixated on here are from 'Dewpoint' and 'Ups & Downs'
(He goes by 'CriTictoo' on Allpoetry)
'Dewpoint' http://allpoetry.com/poem/855458/all=1
'Ups & Downs' http://allpoetry.com/poem/619287/all=1
By the way, C2, you are still committing that grammatical gaff... at least
I can track your trolling with that convenient thumbprint.
~ Makera
P.S. Oh, and thanks for promoting my work!
And, you still don't see something wrong with that picture?
So, that must mean you would detest rhyming words like 'soon' & 'moon',
'control' & 'soul', or 'song & long', is that it?
It really is intellectually dishonest to take a few lines of something out of context in a purile attempt at poetic 'critique'.
To see the original forms of C2's obsession, the two snippets he has
fixated on here are from 'Dewpoint' and 'Ups & Downs'
(He goes by 'CriTictoo' on Allpoetry)
'Dewpoint' http://allpoetry.com/poem/855458/all=1
'Ups & Downs' http://allpoetry.com/poem/619287/all=1
By the way, C2, you are still committing that grammatical gaff... at least
I can track your trolling with that convenient thumbprint.
~ Makera
P.S. Oh, and thanks for promoting my work!
Makeera, do not be so modest. Your own retrun messages were far more abusive and evasive than mine ever were.
I am a little disappointed by your distortions. It's fine for us to disagree so completely on poetry or anything else. But my objection is to forced, simplistic, or clicheed rhymes. Is it so important to you to gain applause from allies by dishonestly commenting that I have a "pathological aversion to rhymes of any kind"?
Here is your entire poem "Ups and Downs". Would you care to comment on your rhyme of "blue" and "true"? Would you care to comment on the words "the true"?
Sound
the depths
that ring a bell
Fall into the
Blue
To seek and find
the piece you lost
that proved the
True
Upside
down
Back to front
Inside out
and sideways
scored
The List
(to port or
starboard?)
of pages torn
and burdens borne
If Life could
fill a
Cup
Now
which way
is
Up?
I find it a piece which is outstandingly trite, and truly awesome in its awful awfulnosity
I am a little disappointed by your distortions. It's fine for us to disagree so completely on poetry or anything else. But my objection is to forced, simplistic, or clicheed rhymes. Is it so important to you to gain applause from allies by dishonestly commenting that I have a "pathological aversion to rhymes of any kind"?
Here is your entire poem "Ups and Downs". Would you care to comment on your rhyme of "blue" and "true"? Would you care to comment on the words "the true"?
Sound
the depths
that ring a bell
Fall into the
Blue
To seek and find
the piece you lost
that proved the
True
Upside
down
Back to front
Inside out
and sideways
scored
The List
(to port or
starboard?)
of pages torn
and burdens borne
If Life could
fill a
Cup
Now
which way
is
Up?
I find it a piece which is outstandingly trite, and truly awesome in its awful awfulnosity
Yes, C2, you have made it abundantly clear, ad nauseam, that you have absolutely no clue who or what 'the True' are! 
It's difficult, almost, not to feel embarrassed for you - with your constant argumentum ad ignorantium!
You must feel satisfied now having baited some into playing your 'contest' game.
Interesting how I still didn't get an answer to my question about what words you detest being used to rhyme.
e.g. words like soon & moon, song & long, or few & do?
Not that I give a damn what you 'think', just that the avoidance was revealing.
It's difficult, almost, not to feel embarrassed for you - with your constant argumentum ad ignorantium!
You must feel satisfied now having baited some into playing your 'contest' game.
Interesting how I still didn't get an answer to my question about what words you detest being used to rhyme.
e.g. words like soon & moon, song & long, or few & do?
Not that I give a damn what you 'think', just that the avoidance was revealing.
I feel I do pretty well in not squashing ideas according to their source[s]. I think it's an excellent idea, no matter who might have suggested it.You must feel satisfied now having baited some into playing your 'contest' game.
Likewise, to think that I was gullibled into coming up with the Swiss neutrality as a theme
. Be that as it may, I think something Leonardesque is more appropriate, anyway. However, on that note , is he not the epitome of neutrality? Listen to him with "On That Day" and in Live recordings of him singing in historically-controversial countries.Furthermore, I'd love to see you and Martine and Georges submit something
.